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Wimbledon versus the Regions
Jul 6th, 2012, 5:36pm
 
Can we be told who the daft t**t is at the BBC who decided, on a day when each region has serious local flood and weather stories and info, that the regional news should be obliterated to make way for a game of tennis?
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Reply #1 - Jul 6th, 2012, 6:11pm
 
The channel re-schedule was totally unnecessary.

There was space on BBC 2 at the same time, already carrying Wimbledon

No schedule change needed.

Typical controller afraid of figures?

Red alerts for flooding in parts of the UK?
Not important.....
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Reply #2 - Jul 7th, 2012, 8:19am
 
It's just the same on Look East when all we get is about a half an hour of people running with the Olympic Torch!
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Reply #3 - Jul 7th, 2012, 9:26am
 
Is there anyone who was a scheduler for the BBC a member of this site and could explain this mystic art  or have they all upon retirement been confined to a dark room. The 'art' or 'skill' of the job seems a complete mystery to most normally educated people and their decisions are not confined to sport. A couple of years ago two series of programmes which went out at a regular time of day on the same day every week had their last episodes moved to a different day and time......not at short notice but far ahead enough to be in the Radio Times. How does scheduling actually work for goodness sake? with so many channels available surely there is no need any longer to move things around so all the 'best' bits go out on a particular channel?  
Who are these people, where do they come from, what are their qualifications?....as Anne Robinson once said of a particular group of people 'what use are they?'
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Reply #4 - Jul 7th, 2012, 9:37am
 
Exactly!   And I never did hear any announcements saying Regional News would then go ahead an hour later....so anyone who wanted to watch could have made sure they stayed tuned in.   I am so glad I am not a regional news editor constantly being told from above what I must have in my programme or, even worse, having deployed my team on a good news event, than find the programme binned. Glad as I am that a Scot is through to the Final, I will never believe a sports story is stronger than a threat to life and home.
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Reply #5 - Jul 7th, 2012, 10:00am
 
There are several issues here
1) The scheduling department are at the mercy of top bods who STILL seem to insist the BBC only broadcasts prescriptively. They also wrongly assume that the public are without TV remotes and are incapable of changing channels.
2)Why on earth call the Six Ocklock News by it's name when it is "moved"  and broadcast an hour later at seven?
3) Sadly the BBC has lost so many sports contracts that it is not worth setting up a dedicated sports network, which would do much to overcome these issues at a stroke.
4) There are some of us who live in dread of a 21.55 pm critical news flash of truly national and worldwide importance concluding with the sentence ..."now-back again to the Centre Court for our extra Wimbledon special ....The News at Ten will be at "around" 11.00.    

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Reply #6 - Jul 7th, 2012, 10:56am
 
I'm not a Sports 'fan' in the strict sense of the word - but I was enjoying the tennis. However, I too found it almost risible the way the schedulers kept moving stuff about. Even if they didn't want to put it on BBC Two, haven't these people heard of the Red button yet? There seems to be ample channels there to have been able to slot the Murray match in although just maybe that facility isn't available 'on all platforms' (as they've taken to saying!) [Wonder who the closet train-spotter was who came up with that phrase!] But it's like they've not realised that nowadays they have more than just BBC One and BBC 2 to play with - as in days of old!  BBC HD for a start could have been used, if for no other reason to make people aware that if they want the whole bouquet of programmes then an extra box is most likely going to be required!! Then people might have been prepared for its use during the Olympix. That's pretty much what Radio have done with regard to DAB - so the precedent has been set!
I always thought they moved stuff onto BBC One because many of the old dears across the land only had TVs tuned to BBC1 and so 'occasions of great import' needed to be moved to that channel. Those days must surely be long, long gone! Dixons and Currys no longer have serried ranks of TVs stacked up in their shop window showing just BBC1 like I can remember!!
Mind you, I agree with Roger (Fleming) that BBC East's coverage of the poxy "flame" tour has been so poor that I'd venture most people wouldn't have minded missing it - unique event or not! And I'm pretty sure from what I have seen that they've not spent more that £10K on the coverage for the whole region! On almost every occasion they've missed the actual 'arrival' anyway. Waste of time and money, IMHO.

Re. 'Roundabout' asking if there are any ex-schedulers hereabouts: I'd have thought they'd want to keep their heads down if there are! And whilst on the subject, surely with the advent of modern computer programs (like Excel?), shuffling programmes about must take only a modicum of practice?
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Reply #7 - Jul 8th, 2012, 4:46pm
 
At 5pm on Sunday I came in and put channel 80 on to watch the 24 hour news channel. "Big floods everywhere, etc.," and what did we get?
25 minutes of live tennis that was showing on BBC1!
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Reply #8 - Jul 9th, 2012, 10:08am
 
This is from the BBC Complaints page on the website:

"We've received complaints from some viewers unhappy with the disruption to the schedule and the amount of coverage devoted to Wimbledon 2012.

BBC response

We acknowledge that some viewers are unhappy with the disruption to the television schedule and the amount of coverage devoted to this year's Wimbledon coverage.

The Wimbledon Tennis Championship is one of the most prestigious events on the British sporting calendar. Every year we devote many hours over the fortnight to provide extensive coverage, a policy which is popular with the majority of our audience. We also know from experience that this event is watched with great interest by many who do not normally enjoy sport.

In covering events as renowned as this, we are faced with very difficult decisions as to what matches to show on television and when. Ultimately, our aim is to bring our audience the most comprehensive coverage of all the key matches during the competition and as a result, there have been occasions where we have decided to make late changes to the published schedules to accommodate a match which had been delayed or had gone on longer than we have scheduled.

In addition, we realise that not everyone will be interested in Wimbledon or indeed sport and so a variety of content is made available on our others channels. However, we have a duty to represent all licence fee payers and there is a large section of our audience who appreciate and enjoy the coverage we offer. In the event of schedule changes, we do endeavour to inform our audience and reschedule programmes which have been dropped for a later date."

All of which sounds to me like the usual "doesn't matter what you say we are always right"

PS I am just putting a complaint together about intrusive music on an otherwise excellent all-speech R4 programme this morning. I don't expect a response.
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Reply #9 - Jul 9th, 2012, 10:22am
 
Re previous comment-Yes it clearly was a very slow newsday on sunday.I think though somebody in authority must have given BBC News a big nudge yesterday pm  that they were duplicating output--since their strap headline at the actual end of the match was " Murray loses"rather than "Ferderer wins".

Later on in the evening--they switched to "Federer wins" accompanying this with an alarmingly uninformed and cliche ridden news commentary.

BBC News would have probably justified their action by saying they were coming at the topic with a different angle. At this-people without TV remotes would have been appalled--but hopefully they would later have found their magic wands and switched to Today at Wimbledon for a more considered  and better edited summary of a classic day of Sport
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