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Dickie Mint
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New Loudness standard kcks in
Oct 2nd, 2014, 4:58pm
 
Reading through the link supplied in "Quality? Spot-Check only..." I stumbled upon a treatise on Loudness. Buried in this was the phrase
" And as of October of 2014 the UKs Digital Production Partnership requires all UK TV productions to comply with the R.128 recommendations."

Skimming through the paper they sort of own up to trails and presentation junctions being recorded with compression.

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Reply #1 - Oct 3rd, 2014, 9:32am
 
But do they 'sort of' discuss solutions? Some of the digital channels give the impression they are a person, a mic.  and a PC with no audio balance at all . Often voice overs at the end of programmes are read with the programme sig not even dipped at all!
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Reply #2 - Jan 20th, 2015, 5:09pm
 
Well the new standards seem to have been ignored tonight just before the One Show. I don't know if the culprits were BBC Scotland or Network presentation, but whoever it was was up to their old tricks, broadcasting a trail at deafening levels compared to the previous and following material.
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Reply #3 - Apr 10th, 2015, 12:03pm
 
And now something that really takes the biscuit!

Last week BBC2 continuity announcements didn't just shout, they bellowed. So I gave them plenty of time to find an engineer to fix it, which they didn't.  So, on 3rd April I filled in the complaint form.

Got a reply today:
" Thanks for contacting us regarding continuity announcements on BBC TV that were broadcast on 3 April.

We understand you felt the continuity announcements on BBC TV were too loud.

Were sorry to hear you were unhappy with the volume. We raised your concerns with the relevant teams who explained that this is a result of a change in a series of technical processes. We are trying to fix this as soon as possible and hope to have the issue rectified by Monday 13 April. Thanks for your continuing patience and we apologise for any inconvenience caused."

You couldn't make it up!  No tweakables, pads, even a fader?
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Reply #4 - Apr 10th, 2015, 1:37pm
 
Dickie, would it be an "Apple and Biscuit"?


Why will it take them more than five minutes to correct the levels?

Perhaps the announcer should whisper until that date?


(STC 4021)

http://www.orbem.co.uk/mics/4021.htm
http://www.museumoftechnology.org.uk/expand.php?key=841
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Reply #5 - Apr 10th, 2015, 3:22pm
 
Proper microphone?! It's probably a headset!  Surely even the meedja student types now running theshow would have the sense to sit back from the mic.

There's no check downstream of the continuity announcer.  In the days of regional Switching Centres someone would buzz CAR and alert them. Though CAR would have noticed anyway.  There's only the Central Coding and Mux centres now, and they're dealing with lots of channels.  When I retired the Digital Operations Centre (DOC) had a contract to handle a few of the commercial channels too.
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